goober1223
Apr 4, 04:05 PM
I'm at a loss for how GV makes any difference in this scenario. If you move to another carrier, you can port your number to that carrier and not lose the number, so how exactly does GV help?
You're aware that GV is NOT a carrier service right? All it does it route calls to the carrier(s) you are using...
But to stay with the same carrier with the same number and upgrade earlier you will pay this advertised price, which just went up. My point is that in order for you to retain the number and not go on contract, GV is one of the best options. Let me fully spell out my two options, as they are right now:
1) Pay early upgrade pricing to upgrade my 16GB iPhone 3Gs to the 32 GB iPhone 4. This would cost $549 under the new pricing arrangement.
2) Transfer my number to GV. This part costs $20 once, and AT&T will give me a new number. I suppose that this may also include an activation fee, as well, so I'll give my cost with and without it. This will definitely incur an early termination fee, however, so I will add this in regardless. Then, the price to upgrade to a new phone, while still being able to use the same number would be: $299 + $20 + $175 - $5/month * 18 months = $404 without an activation fee or + $36 = $440 with the largest activation fee.
As you can see, option two is cheaper in both cases. The only difference is that you end up with a different number to call your phone directly, but I'd prefer to route my number through GV anyway, and I could give out my direct line for those that really need it (my wife) and route everything else through GV.
Here's AT&T's support section for activation fees (http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?solutionId=52268&t=solutionTab), which actually appear to favor my theory that I would NOT be charged an activation fee. But even if I did, it would be more cheaper than early upgrade pricing if, like me, you started your contract prior to June 2010 when they changed their ETF. Their ETF section is here (http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?solutionId=KB92264&t=solutionTab).
Just for the fun of it, I'll run through the calculation for those that purchased the iPhone 4 last June to see if it makes sense for them to upgrade, assuming the prices stay the same and the iPhone comes out in September (Fall which seems to be pretty likely): $299 + $20 + $325 - $10/month * 16 months = $484.
So, either way, it doesn't seem to make much sense to pay the early upgrade prices unless you want to avoid GV.
You're aware that GV is NOT a carrier service right? All it does it route calls to the carrier(s) you are using...
But to stay with the same carrier with the same number and upgrade earlier you will pay this advertised price, which just went up. My point is that in order for you to retain the number and not go on contract, GV is one of the best options. Let me fully spell out my two options, as they are right now:
1) Pay early upgrade pricing to upgrade my 16GB iPhone 3Gs to the 32 GB iPhone 4. This would cost $549 under the new pricing arrangement.
2) Transfer my number to GV. This part costs $20 once, and AT&T will give me a new number. I suppose that this may also include an activation fee, as well, so I'll give my cost with and without it. This will definitely incur an early termination fee, however, so I will add this in regardless. Then, the price to upgrade to a new phone, while still being able to use the same number would be: $299 + $20 + $175 - $5/month * 18 months = $404 without an activation fee or + $36 = $440 with the largest activation fee.
As you can see, option two is cheaper in both cases. The only difference is that you end up with a different number to call your phone directly, but I'd prefer to route my number through GV anyway, and I could give out my direct line for those that really need it (my wife) and route everything else through GV.
Here's AT&T's support section for activation fees (http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?solutionId=52268&t=solutionTab), which actually appear to favor my theory that I would NOT be charged an activation fee. But even if I did, it would be more cheaper than early upgrade pricing if, like me, you started your contract prior to June 2010 when they changed their ETF. Their ETF section is here (http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?solutionId=KB92264&t=solutionTab).
Just for the fun of it, I'll run through the calculation for those that purchased the iPhone 4 last June to see if it makes sense for them to upgrade, assuming the prices stay the same and the iPhone comes out in September (Fall which seems to be pretty likely): $299 + $20 + $325 - $10/month * 16 months = $484.
So, either way, it doesn't seem to make much sense to pay the early upgrade prices unless you want to avoid GV.
justflie
Nov 20, 12:59 PM
weren't there other rumors regarding an "os x lite" edition earlier in the year?
SandynJosh
Apr 7, 07:11 PM
Favorite game - "Leisure Suit Larry in The Land of The Loung Lizards". :rolleyes:
Is that game available on current Apple products anywhere? I remember trying to win that game but couldn't think smarmy enough.
Is that game available on current Apple products anywhere? I remember trying to win that game but couldn't think smarmy enough.
rmwebs
Mar 23, 09:44 AM
Its never a good thing when the guy behind the reason we buy Mac's leaves. :(
For the user who mentioned that he was behind OS X flaws (you mentioned iTunes bloat) - you are wrong. iTunes isn't run directly by the Mac OS development team, it has its own department. There's probably a little crossover however generally he wouldn't have much input on iTunes.
For the user who mentioned that he was behind OS X flaws (you mentioned iTunes bloat) - you are wrong. iTunes isn't run directly by the Mac OS development team, it has its own department. There's probably a little crossover however generally he wouldn't have much input on iTunes.
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bousozoku
Feb 12, 04:59 PM
That torch has been passed to you, Wes. Time to start making some macros....
Maybe not. ;)
Maybe not. ;)
geerlingguy
Sep 26, 08:56 PM
Virus protection? Useful perhaps, what with all the viruses on Macs now-a-days.
I sense a little sarcasm... :rolleyes:
It's been worthwhile for me, as I have never had ANY outages on my web pages... There's only one feature that I'd really like Apple to add, and that's the ability to use your own domain name, instead of having 'homepage.mac.com/username,' or, worse, 'web.mac.com/username/iWeb/etc. etc. etc.' --> Nobody can ever memorize these URL's. And I have to pay $10 a year to get a Yahoo Domain referrer.
I sense a little sarcasm... :rolleyes:
It's been worthwhile for me, as I have never had ANY outages on my web pages... There's only one feature that I'd really like Apple to add, and that's the ability to use your own domain name, instead of having 'homepage.mac.com/username,' or, worse, 'web.mac.com/username/iWeb/etc. etc. etc.' --> Nobody can ever memorize these URL's. And I have to pay $10 a year to get a Yahoo Domain referrer.
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iPhone1
Sep 4, 07:37 PM
Can you post a link for that wallpaper? I love it!
Here you go (attached image).
Here you go (attached image).
puckhead193
Dec 24, 04:02 PM
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=167121&highlight=powersupport+clear+Film
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jouster
Mar 25, 02:39 PM
How about getting two notifications. Try telling me what the first one was? That's right, you will have no clue. Try using Android or WebOS for about 10 minutes and you will realize how obtrusive and useless notifications are in iOS.
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I bought an unlocked Pixi (what a weird phrase...) as my iPhone is on its last legs and I want to wait until the iPhone 5 before upgrading. It's hard to overstate how much better the notifications are than the iOS ones.
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I bought an unlocked Pixi (what a weird phrase...) as my iPhone is on its last legs and I want to wait until the iPhone 5 before upgrading. It's hard to overstate how much better the notifications are than the iOS ones.
JPark
Apr 13, 09:33 AM
I can only think of one appropriate response:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp-MXaNlD5g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp-MXaNlD5g
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mikerr
Dec 21, 06:14 AM
Do we all like price fixing ?
Apple products are too often kept at RRP - not sure if its always by agreements with apple - "don't discount more than 10% or lose authorised reseller status"
Obviously good for apple products, but not for the consumer.
Apple products are too often kept at RRP - not sure if its always by agreements with apple - "don't discount more than 10% or lose authorised reseller status"
Obviously good for apple products, but not for the consumer.
iMac0765
Jul 18, 11:09 AM
Hi guys, I got this e-mail that my replacement slider has been sent. It's been a week and a few days and I still haven't received it. I live in Canada but the e-mail didn't come with any tracking number or a useful number to begin with. Here is the e-mail so can you help me!
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puckhead193
Dec 24, 04:02 PM
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=167121&highlight=powersupport+clear+Film
SpookTheHamster
Apr 8, 03:56 AM
Two displays both with random cycling, currently these two:
http://i.imgur.com/zRHSp.jpg
and
http://i.imgur.com/ichAF.jpg
(I love SecondBar)
http://i.imgur.com/zRHSp.jpg
and
http://i.imgur.com/ichAF.jpg
(I love SecondBar)
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Hisdem
Oct 10, 05:29 PM
http://www.maxthemes.com/
Download and install Aqua Extreme. Choose the "Obsidian" package after you download it.
Cheers to that. Not using it because some of my menubar icons didn't work out, but it's ok, I can live with the gray menubar :(
Updated with new icons, dock, and wallpaper :D
http://cl.ly/29d5dbef66cb11298afa/content
Download and install Aqua Extreme. Choose the "Obsidian" package after you download it.
Cheers to that. Not using it because some of my menubar icons didn't work out, but it's ok, I can live with the gray menubar :(
Updated with new icons, dock, and wallpaper :D
http://cl.ly/29d5dbef66cb11298afa/content
Sofabutt
Apr 7, 07:33 PM
MEh, I jailbroke my iPhone after the last update. No need to worry about another Apple update for months...
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xUKHCx
Apr 7, 05:39 AM
how many Xserves are in that data centre? oh sorry I meant Mac minis...
Just doing the maths on how many Mac Minis it takes to get a Yottabyte of storage...
To get that much storage you would need 1,000,000,000,000 Mac Mini Servers which costed at full retail is 70x the US national debt.
Apple's 500,000 sq ft data centre usuing Doctor Q's 10 fot of usuable vertical space could hold 104,088,861 not accounting for heat dissapation cabling storage racks etc. Therefore you would need 9,607 data centres of the size of apple's current (which was rumored to cost $1billion). However that is a storage facility literally filled with no walking space between the racks or anything like that so a sensible suggestion would be to double that.
The total size of this project would be 9,607,000,000 sq ft or 344 sq miles. Turks and Caicos Islands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_and_Caicos_Islands) happens to 366 sq miles, although to allow for expansion, shipping port/airport and power plants and other ancilallry buildings such as worker housing, supermarket and such I would suggest that Hong Kong with an area of 426 sq miles is a good place to start. Although given the high population of Hong Kong it isn't an ideal place to build such a facility, therefore the Faroe Islands with a size of 538 miles might be the first sensible place to wipe out. Alternatively you could just dump it in Texas/Alaska as they have plenty of land spare. Alaska would give you natural cooling which would be a bonus over Texas although can you image the series of Ice Road truckers, "In this haul is 100,000 Mac Minis."
All in all to go for something like large with some as inappropriate as a Mac Mini is a costly and ultimately bonkers idea.
Fingers crossed that the sums are correct.
Just doing the maths on how many Mac Minis it takes to get a Yottabyte of storage...
To get that much storage you would need 1,000,000,000,000 Mac Mini Servers which costed at full retail is 70x the US national debt.
Apple's 500,000 sq ft data centre usuing Doctor Q's 10 fot of usuable vertical space could hold 104,088,861 not accounting for heat dissapation cabling storage racks etc. Therefore you would need 9,607 data centres of the size of apple's current (which was rumored to cost $1billion). However that is a storage facility literally filled with no walking space between the racks or anything like that so a sensible suggestion would be to double that.
The total size of this project would be 9,607,000,000 sq ft or 344 sq miles. Turks and Caicos Islands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_and_Caicos_Islands) happens to 366 sq miles, although to allow for expansion, shipping port/airport and power plants and other ancilallry buildings such as worker housing, supermarket and such I would suggest that Hong Kong with an area of 426 sq miles is a good place to start. Although given the high population of Hong Kong it isn't an ideal place to build such a facility, therefore the Faroe Islands with a size of 538 miles might be the first sensible place to wipe out. Alternatively you could just dump it in Texas/Alaska as they have plenty of land spare. Alaska would give you natural cooling which would be a bonus over Texas although can you image the series of Ice Road truckers, "In this haul is 100,000 Mac Minis."
All in all to go for something like large with some as inappropriate as a Mac Mini is a costly and ultimately bonkers idea.
Fingers crossed that the sums are correct.
Hansr
Apr 4, 05:27 AM
That is not connected to Windows on Mac so this is the wrong category. But to answer the question just drag the Office folder to the Dock on the right hand side of the Application/Folder break.
Dreadnought
Jan 26, 03:23 PM
Hmmm, twoodcc, you're just behind me as the # 17 contributor of our team... Don't think that will last long. There goes my #10 spot in a couple of days :(
supmango
Apr 4, 10:23 AM
Nice to see AT&T still hasn't changed. I wish I could get an iPhone on Sprint.
Mkalem
Aug 7, 10:02 PM
http://www.iv.pl/images/99814064549980353506_thumb.jpg (http://cl.ly/b8bf7314fab315a3b5f1)
pwtechgeek
Jul 8, 11:12 AM
Anyone else going to be at the AT&T store @ 53rd and Elmore? I'm not sure what time I'm planning on being there.
173080
Jan 23, 10:20 PM
It's the people who are lead footed that don't see the full potential of the car.
I'd say it's the other way around, it really depends on your perspective.
It's the hypermilers that don't see the full potential of their car. ;)
If you don't redline your car at least once a day, you're doing it wrong.:D
I'd say it's the other way around, it really depends on your perspective.
It's the hypermilers that don't see the full potential of their car. ;)
If you don't redline your car at least once a day, you're doing it wrong.:D
OrangeSVTguy
Feb 12, 11:53 PM
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@ ORANGESVTGUY: please lower your folding output, you'll be overtaking me within the next 5 days... (GRMBL!! And some censored cursing: $@&#^%!!!!)
Should pass you up in less than 12 hours now :D
@ ORANGESVTGUY: please lower your folding output, you'll be overtaking me within the next 5 days... (GRMBL!! And some censored cursing: $@&#^%!!!!)
Should pass you up in less than 12 hours now :D
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