RobertMartens
Apr 14, 11:36 AM
The Apple Tax has gotten out of control.
Im tired of Toshiba/Dell/HP making systems with far superior specs, at 30% less than Apple.
I beg to differ.
The Apple Tax has not gotten 'out of control'.
Apple has always maintained a 30% profit margin
Therefore the tax has ALWAYS been about 25%.
Well, if you are not getting hardware with that money what are you getting?
Does Mac OSX have no value to you?
Could it be worth more than Windows?
A lot more?
Frankly, shouldn't Toshiba/Dell/HP be charging A LOT MORE?
They wish.
Im tired of Toshiba/Dell/HP making systems with far superior specs, at 30% less than Apple.
I beg to differ.
The Apple Tax has not gotten 'out of control'.
Apple has always maintained a 30% profit margin
Therefore the tax has ALWAYS been about 25%.
Well, if you are not getting hardware with that money what are you getting?
Does Mac OSX have no value to you?
Could it be worth more than Windows?
A lot more?
Frankly, shouldn't Toshiba/Dell/HP be charging A LOT MORE?
They wish.
MrCrowbar
Oct 28, 11:58 AM
I got 2 MacBooks for my business and i just got them shipped to me the other day, i installed the SMC Firmware update and tested the machine under the core-duo test for 45 minutes and nothing.
I did notice the fan was going like a jet engine and was waitin for the macbook to lunch off the desk but that never happend
when checked the temp before the test it was 40 C ... during the test it was 78 C ... after the test it went down to 56 C and it stayed like that for 45 minutes on idel before it went down to 45 C
how do i know if the heat sink on my MacBooks have been replaces or not, they were both costom orderd MBs and i did wait 1 month to get them from apple website
Your Macbooks are perfectly fine. Basically the fan control does the following:
1. Keep the CPU below a certain temperature (It's 57°C or something, don't
know with the new firmware)
2. Minimum fan speed is 1500 rpm (even at 2500 rpm, you don't hear the fans, the hard drive spin and CPU noise are still louder)
So in your case the Macbook cooled down below the threshold after the test. Thenthe fans on low speed slowly cooled it down. Try out SMCFANCONTROL and play around with the slider. If you put the fans to max speed when the macbook is idling, the temperature should go below 50°C within a few seconds. Beliece it or not, the room temperature ant the heat conductivity factor of the surface your macbooks are on (wood = bad, cold metal = good) are a big factor. Lift the hinge of the Macbook up with a pack of smokes if you want good air flow :-)
I did notice the fan was going like a jet engine and was waitin for the macbook to lunch off the desk but that never happend
when checked the temp before the test it was 40 C ... during the test it was 78 C ... after the test it went down to 56 C and it stayed like that for 45 minutes on idel before it went down to 45 C
how do i know if the heat sink on my MacBooks have been replaces or not, they were both costom orderd MBs and i did wait 1 month to get them from apple website
Your Macbooks are perfectly fine. Basically the fan control does the following:
1. Keep the CPU below a certain temperature (It's 57°C or something, don't
know with the new firmware)
2. Minimum fan speed is 1500 rpm (even at 2500 rpm, you don't hear the fans, the hard drive spin and CPU noise are still louder)
So in your case the Macbook cooled down below the threshold after the test. Thenthe fans on low speed slowly cooled it down. Try out SMCFANCONTROL and play around with the slider. If you put the fans to max speed when the macbook is idling, the temperature should go below 50°C within a few seconds. Beliece it or not, the room temperature ant the heat conductivity factor of the surface your macbooks are on (wood = bad, cold metal = good) are a big factor. Lift the hinge of the Macbook up with a pack of smokes if you want good air flow :-)
MrMac'n'Cheese
Mar 21, 08:48 PM
I have the feeling a bunch of knuckleheads are going to stick a post-it with a clever one-liner on their iPad 2's and return them with the hope of a free iPad2.
BWhaler
Sep 4, 02:29 PM
Ok no one cares about iPod nanos. We want Merom MacBook Pros!!!!!
Amen.
I'm ready to buy a new 17". My current laptop is under a year old, which normally would mean I could get another year of use out of it.
But the move to Intel is too epic of a performance jump, so I am going to upgrade out of cycle.
My needs/wants for the refreshed MBP:
1. 160gig drive
2. Better/modern GPU
3. Lower the power cord wattage so you can charge your MBP on international flights (a massive oversight by Apple.)
4. No heat, fan, build, uneven screen backlighting, etc., quality issues.
Amen.
I'm ready to buy a new 17". My current laptop is under a year old, which normally would mean I could get another year of use out of it.
But the move to Intel is too epic of a performance jump, so I am going to upgrade out of cycle.
My needs/wants for the refreshed MBP:
1. 160gig drive
2. Better/modern GPU
3. Lower the power cord wattage so you can charge your MBP on international flights (a massive oversight by Apple.)
4. No heat, fan, build, uneven screen backlighting, etc., quality issues.
ripfrankwhite
Sep 12, 02:22 PM
I get iTunes error when I try to open iTunes 7 after installation. Don't know what to do.
chillywilly
Sep 5, 11:20 AM
I say iTunes Movie Store and new iPod nanos. Possibly a rev of the iMacs, since they were the first ones to go Intel.
I really don't see a new iPod with video, but I could be wrong... i was last year when the 5G came out.
I really don't see a new iPod with video, but I could be wrong... i was last year when the 5G came out.
archurban
Nov 8, 09:44 AM
only 25% faster. well, I pass it. coreduo is still faster. it's still useful or my work. but I will get new MBP when mac os x Leopard will come with mac next year. :D
b3beater
Nov 27, 09:45 AM
I bet those four people who bought a Zune are going to be pissed! :eek:
donlphi
Sep 25, 01:09 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)
The New York Post (http://www.nypost.com/business/retail_iation_business_tim_arango.htm) reports that Wal-Mart is warning Hollywood studios against partnering with Apple's iTunes Store for movie distribution.
According to studio executives, "Wal-Mart has overtly threatened to retaliate if [studios] go into business with Apple."
While Apple has only signed one movie studio (Disney) to the iTunes store, the early success (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060919142943.shtml) has caught the attention of other studios. One executive is quoted as saying "We all want to be in the Apple business".
The threat of Wal-Mart repurcussions, however, may temper enthusiasm as Wal-Mart controls a large portion of the retail market for DVDs.
HA HA HA :D
The New York Post (http://www.nypost.com/business/retail_iation_business_tim_arango.htm) reports that Wal-Mart is warning Hollywood studios against partnering with Apple's iTunes Store for movie distribution.
According to studio executives, "Wal-Mart has overtly threatened to retaliate if [studios] go into business with Apple."
While Apple has only signed one movie studio (Disney) to the iTunes store, the early success (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060919142943.shtml) has caught the attention of other studios. One executive is quoted as saying "We all want to be in the Apple business".
The threat of Wal-Mart repurcussions, however, may temper enthusiasm as Wal-Mart controls a large portion of the retail market for DVDs.
HA HA HA :D
p0intblank
Sep 12, 02:29 PM
I really love these new iPod nanos. They look so nice in color! I would love to have a green one, but I don't need it. I'm waiting for the true iPod video to sell my 5G and buy one of those instead. :D
Overall, nice keynote! I have to say, though... the new Dock icon for iTunes is pretty ugly. Its interface is cool and all, but I'm going to have to get used to the "non-Aqua" feel it has. The third view mode (albums on a rack) is awe-inspiring, though. I laughed with excitement when I first saw it. :p
Overall, nice keynote! I have to say, though... the new Dock icon for iTunes is pretty ugly. Its interface is cool and all, but I'm going to have to get used to the "non-Aqua" feel it has. The third view mode (albums on a rack) is awe-inspiring, though. I laughed with excitement when I first saw it. :p
croy
Mar 11, 05:12 PM
Oh whatever, I am buying a MBP by the end of this month when I have the cash ready. I could care less if it is the latest one out or not. I am sure that whatever I buy will suit my needs for years to come.
iGav
Sep 13, 09:08 AM
I think they've ruined it myself. *sniff sniff*
ImAlwaysRight
Aug 24, 02:52 PM
Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! It BURNS, it BURNS!
Oh, I thought I had an affected computer but don't. Was just practicing. :o
Nice for the thousands who have had no problems with their battery but get a new one after a year or more of use.
Ugh, this is going to give my PC-loving friends fuel for YEARS.
Bud, you've got enough fuel on PC folks for dozens of CENTURIES so I wouldn't worry about it. ;)
Oh, I thought I had an affected computer but don't. Was just practicing. :o
Nice for the thousands who have had no problems with their battery but get a new one after a year or more of use.
Ugh, this is going to give my PC-loving friends fuel for YEARS.
Bud, you've got enough fuel on PC folks for dozens of CENTURIES so I wouldn't worry about it. ;)
funkdis
May 4, 09:54 PM
cool thread. will read again March 2012
pcharles
Apr 14, 11:49 AM
I have noticed on our campus that the percentage of Apple computers is increasing. I also noticed a lot of Apple Computers when I traveled through O'Hare this week.
I suppose part of that is you can tell which computers are Apples from quite a distance, but not really tell the difference between HP and Dell.
I suppose part of that is you can tell which computers are Apples from quite a distance, but not really tell the difference between HP and Dell.
SwitchingtoMAC
Jan 11, 05:00 PM
They're skipping the whole touchscreen/tablet thing and moving straight to 3D holograms that allow you to type, drag/drop and everything else by moving your hands and fingers around inside the hologram.
nah there going to introduce streaming directly into someones mind no need for a tv or anything else
:D:apple:
nah there going to introduce streaming directly into someones mind no need for a tv or anything else
:D:apple:
zivilist
Jul 2, 05:13 PM
If I want a touchscreen based computer, I buy a iPad.
I can't imagine that you can work very productive if you must/can
switch from Mac OS X to iOS and vise versa in iMac.
It is important that Apple produce iMacs with a quad and hexacore processors (also for smaller displays)
and faster graphic cards build in. It is okay, that Apple has a (one!) slow and very energy efficient iMac in portfolio for classical office environment.
All other competitors has faster computers in the portfolio, so why not Apple?
The Mac Pro is not a solution for that issue (XEON processor, price, other application area).
iMac for rendering purposes and games today? Not really.
What is with USB 3.0 and SSDs in iMac? It is time Apple...
I can't imagine that you can work very productive if you must/can
switch from Mac OS X to iOS and vise versa in iMac.
It is important that Apple produce iMacs with a quad and hexacore processors (also for smaller displays)
and faster graphic cards build in. It is okay, that Apple has a (one!) slow and very energy efficient iMac in portfolio for classical office environment.
All other competitors has faster computers in the portfolio, so why not Apple?
The Mac Pro is not a solution for that issue (XEON processor, price, other application area).
iMac for rendering purposes and games today? Not really.
What is with USB 3.0 and SSDs in iMac? It is time Apple...
b0blndsy
Mar 21, 11:59 PM
My wife said no too and this even includes my wish for one for my upcoming bday to get one.
Good luck :)
Good luck :)
LaMerVipere
Aug 24, 02:40 PM
Ugh, this is going to give my PC-loving friends fuel for YEARS. Just like every little crap article that comes out about ANY possible Apple security problem.
The taunts are already pouring in! "Ha! Ha! The shoe is on the other foot now!" "Oh how the tables do turn!" "Guess you can't act all high and mighty NOW, huh?" "Intel chips and now exploding batteries? Where do I sign up for a Dell�I mean, Mac again?"
AHH!!! :mad:
The taunts are already pouring in! "Ha! Ha! The shoe is on the other foot now!" "Oh how the tables do turn!" "Guess you can't act all high and mighty NOW, huh?" "Intel chips and now exploding batteries? Where do I sign up for a Dell�I mean, Mac again?"
AHH!!! :mad:
moose.boy
Aug 29, 02:35 PM
Your windows installation will not hurt your OSX installation.
They don't see eeach other, and windows is on a seperate partition.
Stop calling people a moron if you don't know what you are talking about.
Boot camp basically eliminated the need to ever buy a PC.
It was an incredibly smart move.
Windows may not be able to read or write to the mac partition, but it will still be there. There is nothing stopping a _really_ malicious virus from messing around with the partition table to bring the whole thing crashing down.
IIRC It was because of the problem with viruses corrupting boot records that microsoft cludged their disk partitioning software FDISK to include the /MBR switch to allow it to wipe previously inaccessible boot records.
However, for those people who just need windows for one or two programs, and who have the awareness to patch and lock it down correctly, then bootcamp is a good idea.
They don't see eeach other, and windows is on a seperate partition.
Stop calling people a moron if you don't know what you are talking about.
Boot camp basically eliminated the need to ever buy a PC.
It was an incredibly smart move.
Windows may not be able to read or write to the mac partition, but it will still be there. There is nothing stopping a _really_ malicious virus from messing around with the partition table to bring the whole thing crashing down.
IIRC It was because of the problem with viruses corrupting boot records that microsoft cludged their disk partitioning software FDISK to include the /MBR switch to allow it to wipe previously inaccessible boot records.
However, for those people who just need windows for one or two programs, and who have the awareness to patch and lock it down correctly, then bootcamp is a good idea.
purd002
Nov 13, 12:54 PM
ironically facebook 3.03 was just released . . .
Distortions
Aug 3, 10:26 PM
This is corrected perspective version I made from the source image.
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GGJstudios
Nov 23, 07:03 PM
The Beatles: Four guys who needed each other, because individually they were musical infants.
Musical infants? Someone's not very knowledgeable:
McCartney is the most successful songwriter in the history of popular music, according to Guinness World Records. McCartney is listed in Guinness World Records as the "most successful musician and composer in popular music history", with 60 gold discs and sales of 100 million singles in the UK.
John Lennon, ... with Paul McCartney, formed one of the most successful songwriting partnerships of the 20th century. As of Lennon's solo album sales in the United States exceed 14 million units, and as writer, co-writer or performer, he is responsible for 27 number one singles on the US Hot 100 chart.
Rolling Stone ranked him the fifth greatest singer of all time.
Whether you like them or not, claiming that they're musical infants is a brilliant display of your ignorance.
sorry...but her stuff is light years ahead of that old outdated sound.
Who???
Musical infants? Someone's not very knowledgeable:
McCartney is the most successful songwriter in the history of popular music, according to Guinness World Records. McCartney is listed in Guinness World Records as the "most successful musician and composer in popular music history", with 60 gold discs and sales of 100 million singles in the UK.
John Lennon, ... with Paul McCartney, formed one of the most successful songwriting partnerships of the 20th century. As of Lennon's solo album sales in the United States exceed 14 million units, and as writer, co-writer or performer, he is responsible for 27 number one singles on the US Hot 100 chart.
Rolling Stone ranked him the fifth greatest singer of all time.
Whether you like them or not, claiming that they're musical infants is a brilliant display of your ignorance.
sorry...but her stuff is light years ahead of that old outdated sound.
Who???
Sydde
Mar 31, 12:07 AM
LOL, who do you think the NATO military is? France? Italy? LMAO, don't make me laugh! Massive military spending cuts and downsizing was the first thing Europe did during their financial downturn. They couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. The US Military -is- the NATO military.
Cite?
Cite?
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