Snowy_River
Jul 12, 06:54 PM
I understand what you are saying but are you really going to call "Vi" a pro app for word processing and say that it fully replaces Word. You can use any app as a tool to create a professional product.
If Vi is being used by a professional to produce a professional product, then, yes, I'd call it a professional application. As far as being able to completely replace Word, well if the professional in question was able to stop using Word, then apparently it was able to completely replace Word for that professional.
Apple labels iWork as a "consumer level" app. not me.
Show me where Apple calls Pages a consumer app (http://www.apple.com/iwork/pages/).
My definition of a "Pro level" app is one that has industry maturity, is excepted as standard industry wide, has many many features which allow it to be versatile and is useful in a variety of professional industries. It probably isn't the easiest app to use because it isn't focused to just one industry.
Your definition of a "professional" app seems mighty arbitrary, even to the extent of excluding most applications that exist. Specialized databases that are designed for a specific industry wouldn't meet your definition. Computer-Aided-Machining (CAM) software (which is only useful in one industry) wouldn't meet your definition. I could go on, but I think you get my point.
I would bet you that not .1% of printshops, publishers, lawyers, engineers, etc. even know what a .pages file is let alone are they working with it daily.
So now you're adding another level of definition to what it takes to be a "professional" app? Some percentage of people have to know about it? And where do you draw the line? Gee, I guess this means that any start-up company trying to produce a new professional application is doomed because how can they ever reach this percentage upon the release so their product can be considered "professional"? :rolleyes:
I come back to my point. I think the simplest definition of a "professional" app is an app that is being used by a professional to produce a professional product. Any other definition falls short of the mark, IMO.
If Vi is being used by a professional to produce a professional product, then, yes, I'd call it a professional application. As far as being able to completely replace Word, well if the professional in question was able to stop using Word, then apparently it was able to completely replace Word for that professional.
Apple labels iWork as a "consumer level" app. not me.
Show me where Apple calls Pages a consumer app (http://www.apple.com/iwork/pages/).
My definition of a "Pro level" app is one that has industry maturity, is excepted as standard industry wide, has many many features which allow it to be versatile and is useful in a variety of professional industries. It probably isn't the easiest app to use because it isn't focused to just one industry.
Your definition of a "professional" app seems mighty arbitrary, even to the extent of excluding most applications that exist. Specialized databases that are designed for a specific industry wouldn't meet your definition. Computer-Aided-Machining (CAM) software (which is only useful in one industry) wouldn't meet your definition. I could go on, but I think you get my point.
I would bet you that not .1% of printshops, publishers, lawyers, engineers, etc. even know what a .pages file is let alone are they working with it daily.
So now you're adding another level of definition to what it takes to be a "professional" app? Some percentage of people have to know about it? And where do you draw the line? Gee, I guess this means that any start-up company trying to produce a new professional application is doomed because how can they ever reach this percentage upon the release so their product can be considered "professional"? :rolleyes:
I come back to my point. I think the simplest definition of a "professional" app is an app that is being used by a professional to produce a professional product. Any other definition falls short of the mark, IMO.
Chwisch87
Apr 21, 11:36 PM
I really have no idea why apple opened this can of worms.
GLS
Apr 23, 07:58 PM
It's absolutely ridiculous it has taken this long for tmobile to have the iphone in the usa.
Let's all spell it together.
EXCLUSIVITY.
AT&T had it at one time. Hence, TMobile couldn't have the iPhone, or any other carrier in the United States.
The more you know.....
Let's all spell it together.
EXCLUSIVITY.
AT&T had it at one time. Hence, TMobile couldn't have the iPhone, or any other carrier in the United States.
The more you know.....
iShater
Oct 20, 10:05 AM
My MBP is up and running 24/7 now, HP laptop working during business hours, and my CD iMac is running at night. I should be back to my "normal" output.
Now I am itching to buy a MP :p
Now I am itching to buy a MP :p
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Trius
Apr 22, 04:23 PM
Really hope this is true...
doctor-don
Apr 24, 09:19 PM
True, long term it is a good plan. Though it looks like since the announcement that new phones becoming available on t-mobile have 850/1900 as well as 1700. Looks like it part of their plan to get devices out to t-mobile users that can work on both networks to be ready for this type of change.
Anyway, regardless of the buy out or not, once exclusivity ended it was only a matter of time before Apple added more bands to the iPhone. The qualcomm chip they use now supports all these bands anyway.
myTouch 4G has Band (frequency):850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
Anyway, regardless of the buy out or not, once exclusivity ended it was only a matter of time before Apple added more bands to the iPhone. The qualcomm chip they use now supports all these bands anyway.
myTouch 4G has Band (frequency):850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
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63dot
Mar 2, 11:01 AM
Well, his kids have been taken out of his custody. Wonder what's next?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/videobeta/?watchId=21c214fa-e879-4539-8ff1-8562b2d5ddbb
http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Police+remove+Charlie+Sheen+kids+from+home/4371625/story.html
That's a trip, and it's so sad. However, I think it's best for the kids. With experts seeming to rule out mental illness (which probably doesn't just come on), there seems to be a very strong appearance that he's on drugs.
The thing is I don't know how he allegedly passed a drug test. The guy rants and raves like either a very late stage alcoholic and/or a person on hard drugs. He has openly admitted to lots of drinking and drug use so it's not a stretch to think he's still using and it's a good reason to take the kids away. But more than feeling sorry for him, I really feel sorry for all those who he had hurt.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/videobeta/?watchId=21c214fa-e879-4539-8ff1-8562b2d5ddbb
http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Police+remove+Charlie+Sheen+kids+from+home/4371625/story.html
That's a trip, and it's so sad. However, I think it's best for the kids. With experts seeming to rule out mental illness (which probably doesn't just come on), there seems to be a very strong appearance that he's on drugs.
The thing is I don't know how he allegedly passed a drug test. The guy rants and raves like either a very late stage alcoholic and/or a person on hard drugs. He has openly admitted to lots of drinking and drug use so it's not a stretch to think he's still using and it's a good reason to take the kids away. But more than feeling sorry for him, I really feel sorry for all those who he had hurt.
r1ch4rd
Jan 29, 10:59 AM
perhaps this weekend :)
http://sitespecific.dealerskins.com/CarouselMotors/InventoryImages/31990296_md.jpg
I have an A3 Sportback, excellent car! Which engine are you going for?
http://sitespecific.dealerskins.com/CarouselMotors/InventoryImages/31990296_md.jpg
I have an A3 Sportback, excellent car! Which engine are you going for?
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kbmb
Apr 12, 09:52 AM
And what exactly do you plan to run on that extra horsepower? What effect does it have on battery power.
Congratulations on being caught up with the sheep in the new CPU clock speed race.
WHAT? Can't I send texts twice as fast? Check my Facebook page more often with a dual core?
:confused: :D
-Kevin
Congratulations on being caught up with the sheep in the new CPU clock speed race.
WHAT? Can't I send texts twice as fast? Check my Facebook page more often with a dual core?
:confused: :D
-Kevin
iphone3gs16gb
May 1, 10:34 PM
I thank our special forces for killing and capturing that arab scumbag.
The U.S. carried out its promise :)
Now I wonder who is next?
The President is addressing the American people!
The U.S. carried out its promise :)
Now I wonder who is next?
The President is addressing the American people!
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mdriftmeyer
Jul 10, 08:15 PM
As a frequent user of Pages 2, I would like more toolbars and less of the 'inspector' stuff, which to me is not as convenient.
Get used to more Inspectors with Tab Views and less Toolbars. Cocoa apps are designed with Inspector Views.
Get used to more Inspectors with Tab Views and less Toolbars. Cocoa apps are designed with Inspector Views.
Platform
Oct 24, 09:17 AM
well i can't believe Apple came thru today. i'm glad they did though. i didn't see the 2GB of ram coming though
Yeah 2GB RAM, well I guess Apple's new apps (maybe even taking virtualization into consideration) and Leopard will like RAM...I have 1.5GB....:o
Yeah 2GB RAM, well I guess Apple's new apps (maybe even taking virtualization into consideration) and Leopard will like RAM...I have 1.5GB....:o
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cleric
Apr 22, 10:15 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)
Many get garbage 3G speeds on AT&T in many areas anyway, so what's the point of having a 4G iPhone that GSM provider (insert AT&T) in the US can't even support on a mass basis?
Yargggh me crappy ATT! Who cares data speed isn't really the weakpoint right now.
http://www.speedtest.net/iphone/89711689.png
Many get garbage 3G speeds on AT&T in many areas anyway, so what's the point of having a 4G iPhone that GSM provider (insert AT&T) in the US can't even support on a mass basis?
Yargggh me crappy ATT! Who cares data speed isn't really the weakpoint right now.
http://www.speedtest.net/iphone/89711689.png
rkmac
Jan 30, 06:16 PM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9899/albumsd.jpg
Grabbed some albums:
Abbey Road - The Beatles
Time Flies... 1994-2009 - Oasis (Deluxe Edition)
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy - Kanye West (Deluxe Edition)
Grabbed some albums:
Abbey Road - The Beatles
Time Flies... 1994-2009 - Oasis (Deluxe Edition)
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy - Kanye West (Deluxe Edition)
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-aggie-
Apr 29, 04:15 PM
You're just trying to quiet the only voice that figured you out. Getting rid of me smooths your sail all the way to a WW victory.
Uh, no.
Once they vote you off and find you are a WW, there will be no questions. Or they can vote me off now, and you can kill someone else tonight. Their call, but I doubt anyone is going to be influenced by this act, especially after your earlier posts.
Uh, no.
Once they vote you off and find you are a WW, there will be no questions. Or they can vote me off now, and you can kill someone else tonight. Their call, but I doubt anyone is going to be influenced by this act, especially after your earlier posts.
ToddJ
Mar 31, 08:44 PM
They ought to have a 'classic' mode for iCal so people can choose...i know it won't happen though
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iMeowbot
Jul 21, 12:29 PM
schiller also said � i think the day before boot camp was announced � that apple wouldn't prevent users from putting windows on the intel macs, but they wouldn't facilitate it either.
There is a big difference between the things that Apple people actually say and the twisted versions that get regurgitated in the Apple rumors community.
Phil Schiller, Apple�s senior vice president of worldwide product marketing, said in an interview Tuesday that the company won�t sell or support Windows itself, but also hasn�t done anything to preclude people from loading Windows onto the machines themselves.
'That�s fine with us. We don�t mind,' Schiller said. 'If there are people who love our hardware but are forced to put up with a Windows world, then that�s OK.'
Link. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10789855/page/2/)
In another interview, he said:
After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that."
Link. (http://news.com.com/2100-1014_3-5733756-2.html)
Apple still don't plan to sell or support Windows. And Schiller didn't say that Apple wouldn't facilitate running it. He told the truth.
That's a very different stance from the clear "absolutely not" on integrating Windows into the OS X run time.
There is a big difference between the things that Apple people actually say and the twisted versions that get regurgitated in the Apple rumors community.
Phil Schiller, Apple�s senior vice president of worldwide product marketing, said in an interview Tuesday that the company won�t sell or support Windows itself, but also hasn�t done anything to preclude people from loading Windows onto the machines themselves.
'That�s fine with us. We don�t mind,' Schiller said. 'If there are people who love our hardware but are forced to put up with a Windows world, then that�s OK.'
Link. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10789855/page/2/)
In another interview, he said:
After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that."
Link. (http://news.com.com/2100-1014_3-5733756-2.html)
Apple still don't plan to sell or support Windows. And Schiller didn't say that Apple wouldn't facilitate running it. He told the truth.
That's a very different stance from the clear "absolutely not" on integrating Windows into the OS X run time.
dfinecy
Apr 22, 04:19 PM
I don't see them enlarging the screen by a mere .2" it seems illogical to me. Plus the mock up really sucks lol surely Apple would come up with something much more appealing then this. My money is on the iPhone 5 to be nearly identical to the iPhone 4 except with better insides :)
KnightWRX
Apr 22, 12:07 PM
4. Per Bash, i never said it wasnt part of GPL/GNU - it is - I agree.
Look, I'll just ignore you. Your knowledge of all of this is lacking and now you're backtracking. To answer that specific point. Yes, you did say Bash wasn't part of the GNU licensing, quite clearly showing you have no understanding of the situation :
Bash is under the GPL license - not GNU. Never has been GNU
Look, I'll just ignore you. Your knowledge of all of this is lacking and now you're backtracking. To answer that specific point. Yes, you did say Bash wasn't part of the GNU licensing, quite clearly showing you have no understanding of the situation :
Bash is under the GPL license - not GNU. Never has been GNU
Macula
Oct 24, 08:50 AM
...make sure there is no whine!
I would personally give it a week or two to make sure that revisions are not necessary.
I would personally give it a week or two to make sure that revisions are not necessary.
Sined
Apr 28, 01:57 PM
And thats just it.
Google hasn't found a way to capitalizes on its smart phone market share.
So even if they get 75% of the market and Apple keeps its 25%, in terms of revenue Apple is still going to "win".
In the long term it will.
Google hasn't found a way to capitalizes on its smart phone market share.
So even if they get 75% of the market and Apple keeps its 25%, in terms of revenue Apple is still going to "win".
In the long term it will.
KnightWRX
Apr 14, 07:06 PM
You really are hopeless! If you can't even figure out a hot link to a source article your opinions are worthless. Go away. Now.
Look, you made a claim that TB seemed like an evolution of Fiber channel. I use Fiber channel day in and out on everyone of my servers. All our storage infrastructure is built off Brocade/HP equipment using a Fiber channel SAN.
If you think my opinion is worthless when I say TB has nothing to do with Fiber Channel, I don't know what to say. Your link does not even begin to explain your comment.
You essentially just claimed USB 3 was a replacement for Gigabit Ethernet. One is a host based interconnect, the other is a networking protocol.
But you're right, I'm probably the one being short-sighted here and not seeing the Apple magic at work.
Look, you made a claim that TB seemed like an evolution of Fiber channel. I use Fiber channel day in and out on everyone of my servers. All our storage infrastructure is built off Brocade/HP equipment using a Fiber channel SAN.
If you think my opinion is worthless when I say TB has nothing to do with Fiber Channel, I don't know what to say. Your link does not even begin to explain your comment.
You essentially just claimed USB 3 was a replacement for Gigabit Ethernet. One is a host based interconnect, the other is a networking protocol.
But you're right, I'm probably the one being short-sighted here and not seeing the Apple magic at work.
levitynyc
Apr 13, 01:55 PM
Not a chance in hell.
goobot
Apr 22, 04:36 PM
ya no,
any rumors on hspa+?
any rumors on hspa+?
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